The slide has the most ineffective grooves Ive ever felt. If you spend any amount of time online, youve seen product rating systems on Amazon, Netflix, Yelp, etc., usually in the form of star ratings. The Ring of Fire guns are small, super I have had my CPX 2 and have shot many hundreds of rounds through it, no jams, no misfires, not really impressed with the rear sites, so I put a laser on it and it is accurate, I like not having a safety on it, but with 9 pounds of trigger pressure you do not need a safety. It is my favorite except the 15 ounce weight makes it have more recoil than a typical 9mm. I used to have one. I bought a used SCCY CPX-2. Too small, too weak, too much plastic. The DAO trigger is long but is consistent and smooth. How about some info on some of the pocket pistols that may be considered the best? Thats what made my wife choose a Sig P238, which I carry occasionally. I assume the reason the CM40 sucks is similar. I went through 4 LCP. (I call the SCCY, my Sunday go-to-meeting piece. You do that and you will find hipoints and cobras to work as they are intended. Can't argue with Sig, but I'd also add Beretta to that list, both the The Pico is one of the best firearms in its class out there period. And we have to like it enough to carry it. I have two of the Picos. Did anybody take the poor performing guns to a reputable gunsmith and have them tuned up? I dont see it. I cant count on my DB380 to run consistently, so I had to give it a low rating. It covers the trigger guard of the pistol and has a hook and sticky material to stay secure in your pocket so it is easy to draw the pistol from your pocket without bringing the holster with it. BTW except for the cobra all these little guns got good reviews at various timesFWIW. It is not made for quick magazine changes. I experienced none of that with my p3at but it was entertaining to read. It would likely be more meaningful. If there is what looks like an empty hole its uncocked. So Ill pass on the herd mentality when buying guns thanks.. They have gotten great reviews and by the serial numbers and manufacture dates on the 2 guns, their sales have gone up 4x but the QC has suffered greatly. Keltec P-11 listed as 10+1 on THEIR website. If you actually carry a gun in your pocket, even in a pocket holster, its gonna get dirty. Its elegant lines and precision engineering have a timeless appeal. Or had a bad exp. Sold it and picked up an LCP off a friend for $150. That would be TTAG, and a handful of others. Every one of these pistols are incredibly easy to conceal in your pocket. The Beretta APX has a 4.4 rating from 22 votes It sucks so hard that its suckage transcends space and time. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg Nemesis pocket holster, and 1 spare mag, goes everyehere. Very small would suggest either real fanboys or real haters. Thanks for your post. In contrast to this, the original LCP did not lock back on the final round. Id have to disagree with the cpx2s place on the list even though the company had growing pains. And that considering the Kahr is a fine gun. I also Have the Kahr CW380 nice guy but finicky on ammo. Yep and they give AKs a bad name with how terrible theirs are. Those were the worst. Nonetheless, the fact that they are difficult to shoot can be a major problem for training and self-defense purposes. At my handgun review and rating site, gunsgunsguns.net, we offer star ratings on a scale of 110 for every gun featured on the site. I trust my Hellcat 380 as much as I do my S & W 39, but I prefer a tight revolver over any semi-auto when my life depends on it. I have pocket holsters for all but the S&W and had been carrying the XDS 45 regularly till yesterday. Ruger LCP Max 2. They are meant to be defensive arms that can be easily carried in the pocket. Yes, the LCP II is still a .380 pocket pistol and as a result is still snappy. I know one person who had a nightmare of an experience with the Diamondback ..380. Seriously, it works if you have a fresh pair of springs in it. Current (and Growing) List of Exhibitors at the Texas Firearms Festival. They never protected their early designs/. This article was total BS. But thats just me Not everyone places as much weight on user ratings as I do. :p. People generally avoid spam masquerading as journalism. None. I doubt he even read the directions. I also have the Kahr. lol Damon really? SCCY Industries CPX-2 (4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes) This gun is budget-friendly The .380 ACP semi-automatic pistol is one of the most popular categories of concealed carry weapons in the United States and has been for years. When you insert a fresh magazine, it will be easier to rack the slide this way as well. Im thinking about getting a second one to keep in my truck or with my bow hunting gear. It makes my SR40C feel like a 9mm. The Recoil spring is a one spring like almost any other. WebBeretta Pico: Worst .380 In the World?! Try posting a survey asking for votes on Glocks, for instance, and you will get a very polarized response . I understand its not for everyone but its a good quality firearm with excellent customer service. Its a sharp designed pistol with a great price . Surprised the Remington R51 didnt make this list. This gun is selling better than ever years later. And with 38 other semi-auto pocketguns to choose from, why risk it? Heck, the CM40s steel-framed brother, the MK40, is currently ranked in the top 5 (granted, with only 10 votes so far). Given how clannish and brand-loyal a lot of gunners are, it wouldnt shock me if about half the votes against the SCCY were cast because it wasnt a Glock 43, or something equally biased and stupid. The CM40 being smaller and lighter might exhibit a little more, but its not unmanageable. First of all I do have the Kahr and like the gun very much. (1) Astroturfing happens, both ways. Beretta has been making guns for over 500 years and nice guns. So, pocket guns being inherently hard to shoot and prone to limp wristing will experience failures. In 2017, SIG Sauer produced a unicorn of a pistol in the P365. Ive never seen one that ran well or was anything but unpleasant to shoot, provided you can get more than one round off without a misfeed. Its been reliable since then for me. Here is some news for you. How is the pot metal Cobra #2? This gun is budget-friendly and chambered substantially (9mm). So there. Just being a bashing b**** , gets you nowhere. Also, I dont consider the CPX-2 to be a pocket pistol, nor should it be compared to some of the little single stack fluff-pieces the articles author referenced. WebThe .380 Auto (ACP) Pistol is most often used for self-defense, and is a particularly good choice for concealed carry thanks to its small size. Um the SCCY is a near exact copy of the nearby(Cocoa,Fl) Keltec P-11. You need to learn more about handguns before posting such nonsense. Personally, Id like to see something a little more scientific than a survey since we have no idea if the respondents even handled the firearm. None. (Though they have better triggers than the early LCPs, thats not enough), You should try mine. Did he shoot various ammo or run them for accuracy. I have several pocket pistols, Just had my XDS 45 fail on me (Light primer strikes) and have another XDS in 9MM, I have a S&W Sigma 380, that works but is less pleasing than my two Ruger LCPs, Kahr, CW380, or my Colt Mustang XSP. Tiny, safety features, serious calibers, etc. This list would have been more valid if it had included the KIMBER SOLO, This website is better than the comedy channel. Even your most expensive 1911s, Colts, S&W and Glocks will jam or miss fire from time to time. You can get these on line at times for I fire a couple of magazines a month thru them so as not to get too rusty . Im not saying every single person who votes needs to leave a full, detailed review, but encouraging people to at least leave a couple pros/cons would be most helpful. I think Jimenez and Lorcen companies went bankrupt. Im generally a fan of .40, though it does have a bit of a signature snap. Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. Still, if youre looking for a all purpose value like pistol then look no further (hesk Ive seen them for $200 NIB out the doorAnd yes, Kel-Tec got copied yet again! ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Wisdom of the crowd is an awfully unknown thing to be making life-and-death decisions on. The Pico is top shelf. Regardless of your take on user ratings, I think you can safely ignore the bottom six guns and not worry about missing out on much. The Sccy gets a 4.3 rating and it stinks? The Beretta Pico is probably one of Berettas biggest blunders. I would even venture to say its a 50/50 gamble when buying a Kel Tec. A recoil spring system that not only sucks, but lends the thing to have constant and regular jams and FTF and FTEs. I had 4 LCPs that went down with cracked grips, frames, broken take down pin, split rails etc. Got over 1000 rounds through it, and no problems. Overall, the trigger on the LCP II makes it infinitely easier to shoot than the original LCP. How is it possibly at the top of the list? Hellcat 380. No problems with it at all. Guess what? I give them a failing grade because neither gun reliably goes bang each time you pull the trigger on factory ammo. I carry it about as often as I carry a Glock 19 mainly based upon clothing/belt shortcomings in dress scenarios. The reason the trigger pull is lighter is because it is a SA trigger versus the DA trigger on the original LCP. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. The trigger is about smooth and deliberate. This crowdsourced data points arent perfect, but if a product gets a statistically significant number of votes, we get a pretty good idea of how it stacks up thanks to the wisdom-of-crowds phenomenon. I dont care for the finger grooves, the chunky feel, or the bullets rattling in the magazine when they arent stacked just right. I normally enjoy Truth about guns. Not cheap, but beautifully crafted. He may want to trade the SCCY with the safety in for one of the newer ones without a safety. The wisdom of the crowd phenomenon? Note to self, Get to the range! Votes on the best or worst of anything are all based on personal experience or having an ax to grind. I can do it blind folded. I tried to get Gunsgunsguns.net to pop up-no dice in 5 or 6 tries. However, they are among the worst guns for concealed carry. Super gun, works every time. Im guessing a .40 S&W round is just too unpleasant to shoot in this uber lightweight polymer-framed pocket gun. the problem with your rating site is that it is seriously flawed. It went on to launch a revolution of micro .380 handguns. I alone will take up the Masterpiece banner, carry it aloft, plant it on the nearest peak and proclaim, Get thee 6 extra recoil springs and thou shalt have a decent pistol for a year or more, even.. No I dont own one I own two. TCP and P3AT triggers were clearly worlds better than it. It smacks you hand, mostly due to the 2 finger grip. This is what I really hate about stories like the one posted. Do you perhaps have a very early one? OMG! Do not yank the magazine friends. Lets find out by comparing it to the original LCP. Glad I didnt see mine. I agree, the P3AT is my go to light carry gun. When I dress up, the P380 is the best answer to the pocket-carry problem. Im a Glock 27 guy, so I dont mind recoil. That could happen with any gun someone didnt ,maintain and hadnt tested out at the range. Nonetheless, it still suffers from many of the issues that we just talked about in the previous section: the trigger pull is awful, they are difficult to shoot, it can be difficult to get a good grip on the pistol for some shooters, and the slide wont even lock back on the last round fired. If you use ratings to determine which gun works or doesnt work for you, you are a fool. It is almost a virtual impossibility to drop the mag without having to literally stop everything your doing and have to yank the thing down using 2 hands. Nicer than the price would indicate. The SCCY is even rated for +P ammo, in modest doses, according to the company. If you have to rely on Counter Clerks for advice on firearms tells me quite a bit. I have SCCY CPX2 Best gun ever Just keep it clean 400 rounds down range 400 rounds on target Ill bet my life on my cpx2. No problem for me but then I have fired well over 100,000 rounds in 50 years. Recoil was worse on the 380 than the 9. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! I owned a SCCY CPX-2 (notice the past tense). Because they unreasonably expected to consistently hit a bullseye at 50 yards with a pocket pistol? WebMAC Website & PrimaryArms website link: http://www.militaryarms.orgJoin Patreon and support MAC! Go to the Beretta form Pico and the gun is loved by many. Actually the Hellcat felt better in the hand and was more accurate for me with a better sight than other micro pistols. The only guns to get near a 100 votes are the Beretta and the SCCY. For 2022, the Roughneck will be available in a recoil-friendly .380 ACP. Granted, .380 pocket autos are not guns that you take to the range for fun. Here are some basic facts for the Ruger LCP II: In conclusion, the Ruger LCP II simply represents the beginning of the evolution of the .380 pocket pistol. At 10.2 ounces, the trim Taurus 738 is a very light pistol, and with an overall length of just 5.25 inches its easy to conceal even under light Remarkable build quality. Safe, small, and gives me some measure of security I wouldnt have without it. And I dont know why Keltec lets Ruger & SCCY(and the defunct hellcat) slavishly copy their designs. Trash. So the recoil is stout. Probably have about 2500 rounds through it. I do feel though that its a little too light for a 9mm caliber . Check out the 380 showdown in GunWorldin 2012all 3 Keltecs broke and wouldnt run right. All these tacticool wannabes on here think theyre special. The Kahr is an excellent unit and I have years of experience with them over Tens of Thousands of rounds fired. Bottom line, a lifetime warranty isnt worth squat if they cant fix the problem and their only answer is to blame the customer. Types Of .380 Pistols Subcompact vs Micro-Compact Single-Stack vs Double-Stack Magazines What Should You Look for in a The Pico is top notch. No thanks. .380 pocket pistols are incredibly easy to conceal, and this is what is largely attributed to their long time popularity in the United States. How do they perform? Wecantdislike shooting it so much that well never practice with it. they gladly took it back and said the Cobra .380 was selling like hotcakes. They fall apart with any kink of volume down range. But for a handgun of last resort, I prefer an Airweight. Really disappointed in how this was presented. Its teeny, accurate, and easy to handle. IO stopped making them and moved to Florida. No it is not a light striker fired trigger. Otherwise, their opinion may mean nothing. its a good resource with a lot of basic info on a LOT of handguns, a good start for anyone looking at a first gun, for example, or a second, for that matter. Uh no. I will say they like Ruger and a few other vendors copied Kel-Tec once again as this thing look like a P11. Mild. You can read about well known problems on reddit, Amazon, etc, for ranknings and customer ratings abuse. Really it sounds like some pretty crappy customer service. You have entered an incorrect email address! Theyve reportedly improved it in newer model LCPs. It is accurate, easy to shoot, recoil is manageable. But I have no interest in any Keltec pistol-unlike several rifles. I own and have tested both the CPX1 (manual safety) and CPX2 (no manual safety). Expand your opinion to something legitimate and/or constructive with first hand knowledge. Mine also runs well, and they feel really well made. The reason I hated it was they are DAO and the trigger pull was a mile long, i found my self pulling the trigger again before it reset. Could not disagree more with the articles 3rd selection, namely, the SCCY Industries CPX-2 (not to be confused with its predecessor which had issues of which were acknowledged by the company and subsequently corrected). Far better than any of the others gun you talk about on this rag of a story. These are not military combat weapons. The movie Gigli had the worst, lowest rating ever on IMDB, voted on by tens of thousands of people. I own two of them, and they have turned out to be the highest quality most reliable firearms I own. Encountered types on the old KT forums that whines like a little girl. We even joked that we needed to start a Pocket Gun Palma match. I really get the feeling you know little about the Pico. IT is NOT stiff at all. More than ever, the PPK is a statement of sophistication. The thing stinks. I have heard the PiCO may be TOO small. Obviously you really do not get into pocket guns or spend time with folks that do. And I didnt enjoy shooting my G27 until I got the extended base plates with additional capacity. The sccy is very similar. You really missed this one. Broke the ejector. I have literally spoken to no one that has said anything positive about the Pico. Shocking that an IO Inc product is at the bottom of the barrel. I would love to meet you and show you what your are NOT talking about. I told him Im shooting the same Remington ammo in all of them (I dont use the reloads or Russian stuff). You sound smart. And buying likes is one definite way to abuse it. M&P Shield EZ .380 6. A lot of those people who diss these guns are those that run hollowpoints or high pressure rounds. 72 people have given the Arsenal Strike 1 a mediocre rating. WHAT ARE THE DISADVANTAGES OF THE .380 POCKET PISTOL? Split chassis, cracked frames, split rails, broken take down pins. It works great if all it does is sit in your pocket. . How many times do you change magazines in a self defense situation? anyone can vote on any gun whether they own or have even seen the gun in person. Worst complaint is the trigger, but a lot of dry fires with snap caps and you condition yourself to the long reset. No problems when used within its limits. Still cant find that silent u in it to make it sky. You must not even be able to read. Shoot to make the thug dead. 4) Beretta Pico(4.1 stars 0.3, 134 votes), Color me shockedto see the Pico down here with the bottom feeders because Beretta is a major manufacturer that produces lots of quality firearms. Modular design, one of the easiest take downs in the history of guns, fantastic sights, easy to put on night sights without going to a Gun Smith. I recommend them to people all the time, but I do caution that, as is to be expected with a DAO, the trigger is long. CM40 is my summe4 carry. The Pico is a great gun. Its almost like clockwork, at about the 5th round itll turn the shell sideways then the returning bolt will grab it. Or has been suggested earlier you can just go snub nosed revolver. Yea, guns like Diamondback, Jiminez, Lorcen, High Point and so forth have always had poor reputations, but guns like SCCY and the now Springfield Armory XD were initially poo pooed but turn out to be good guns The guns with the lower number of people voting are probably irrelevant no matter what their scores are. How many times does anyone complain about a bad trigger in a self defense situation? It was his first time shooting it (or any gun) ever. This is the J-Frame for the masses. like any gun it can have its issues so can the SCCY but if you really look at it, compact light and The PPK established a defining influence on the design of concealed carry firearms. While the LCP II is still a small pocket pistol, Ruger made a number of improvements to it. I have thousands of rounds through the Picos and trust me, they hold up like the tank they are. It is also the only 10 shot 9mm you can find that is truly small enough to pocket carry. Its a joy to shoot. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg I have a KAHR CM40 and a CW40 and for their intended purpose they are great. Cant say LCP is much better than any of these above, but it has been reliable. Ruger LCP II .380 ($349) And then the gall to refer to Jeremy who by the way did not bother to report that the upgraded model fixed all the issues with the first run. Stainless Steel receiver, chassis, guide rod, built like a tank. (Including the book he wrote about how to cheat Amazon buyers by faking reviews.). Booth #72617 Cabot Guns Yes, he and others are social media whizkids, but not firearm experts. Like a great car or movie, a great firearm can become a true classic. Except for a derringer but that is because the prior owner dry fired it which you are to never do. Not any more fun to shoot, but at least I dont need a damned pencil to take spent brass out of it. SCCY CPX-2 is a very good gun. It jammed after the first shot, but he hit the intruder in the chest. Worst Guns Ever Nambu: The Nambu is one of the worst pistols ever designed. Those small NAA revolvers you have to learn how to safely load and unload. Seriously?). Are you kidding me? I bought it because the idea of 10+1 rounds in 9mm was very appealing. The Kahr chokes on all kinds of ammo. Yeah, apparently without the server capacity to handle the resulting load increase, too. Bottom line: you can do much better. Its very much a personal decision then, based on fit, function, and how well it shoots. WebThe Roughneck series of derringers are similar in appearance to the well-known Bond Arms Backup models, but are more affordable. Have you put more than a box through it? Literally, it is.) http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/ppk/ Everything they make are just wrought with problems. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock It is light and works. I will run the Pico side by side the Kahr any day and have. Combined with the teflon-like nickle finish and the worlds stiffest recoil spring, its almost impossible to rack. I would think a pocket gun would be best kept in .380 or 9mm. If you are going to run a wisdom of crowds review site I think you really ought to take a note from them, because we ALL know the crowd can also be incredibly stupid, especially when hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard. Then I go to the LGS and shoot the guns myself, having sorted down to a handful that might meet my needs. Man this Truth about guns article really burns me up. Simple, easy and the Beretta Pico is in fact one of the most mild shooting Pocket Pistols out there. Thats not exactly The TRUTH About Guns. For College Campuses! As soon as I saw the title I knew the Pico would be on the list. Oh not to mention Sccy has great Suprised about the Kahr, Beretta, and Diamondback. My advice. Keep up the good work Jed, and thanks for the article. (not missed, as in missed the target, but missed as in I pulled the trigger for the follow up shot and nothing happened because it had not reset). Three weeks before it was even released. Horrible, awful trigger. I had a CPX-2, functionality and reliability i couldnt complain about. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. The S&W MP EZ 380 read the reviews even on the Glock site they praise the SW MP 380 EZ Yes it did. At first glance, Japans first semi-automatic pistol design resembles the iconic I am surprised high point 380 & 9mm werent included in your list. Last but not least, and while this is entirely personal preference, many regard .380 autos as having poor ergonomics due to the fact that their extraordinarily small size means you cant get a full grip on them. While the track is double, both trains were traveling in opposite directions on the same line near the Vale of Tempe, a river valley about 380 kilometers (235 miles) north of Athens. It pains me to include the DB380 on this list because I bought one acouple years ago. Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! Cobra lasted 10 minutes in my house. My NAA .380 ACP with Novak 3 dot night sights has been 100% reliable with every ammo tried and as accurate as I am. Examples of popular small pocket .380 autos include the original Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard .380, and the Kel-Tec P3-AT to name a few. You get two shots, a single-action-only You did NOT mention that the Pico has RE-STRIKE CAPAPIBILITY. The Type 94 Shiki Kenju. For instance, I have owned 4 lcps and the pico will run circles around them. Theres room for disagreement, but probably only because some peoples pockets are bigger and can hold bigger guns. 6) IO Hellcat II (2.9 stars 0.6, 32 votes). Copyright 2023 Center for the National Interest All Rights Reserved. Personally have no experience with them but it is to each his own and have heard nothing but good about these pistols. OMG! Try the Sig P938 If you are truly carrying for protection you dont mind the Sig Price if your life is on the line and the P938 shoots like a minature 1911 Love mine and have had several friends buy them after shooting my P938 SAS. After each guns name, youll see its average user rating, that ratings margin of error and the number of votes: 1) Diamondback Firearms DB380 (4.3 stars 1.0, 25 votes). Five for sure and nobody can show otherwise. Ed Brown alpha elite: 3.2. Man, all I can say is when you mentioned the Pico, you sure messed up on that one. A 9mm shouldnt be slower than a .45. Forget about dropping the mag with the shooting hand, cause it aint happening. Ruger sells the LCP II with a neoprene pocket holster (which has the Ruger logo on it), and it actually works quite well. Painful to shoot, yes, but thats what you get when the gun barely weighs more than the bullet it fires. The .380 pistol which has the least recoil? Above, a Ruger, below a Browning 1911380 Without even looking at their spec sheets, we can guess that The original Ruger LCP has been perhaps the most well-known and popular .380 pocket pistol since it was first introduced in 2008. And what sucks is I held off buying a 380 cause I really thought the Pico would be great. The ratings would be a lot more reliable if everyone had to write a review along with the rating. A bunch. I like mine. you have to wear shorts with a tucked in shirt), the LCP II will be a great option. Get a Kahr CW380 or P380 and just be done with it cause they really dont get much better for pocket 380 carry IMO. You do not have one clue about what you are talking about. Or the Springfield EMP (Though mine runs awesome, they are known for manufacturing problems). Id trust actual reviewers over internet voters. Sure you can spend $500 on a Glock or what ever else you want to list but the specs on this gun make it a easy choice and hell I can buy two for the price of most good guns. Bersa Thunder 5. Thank-you. My PT 22 is surprisingly reliable. NOPE! Basically I hate these guns because I hate these guns, and you should too because I do. This is the closest I have ever been to accusing TTAG of pandering to the highest advertising contributors (i. e. not a SINGLE Taurus gun on here? Ive put plenty of rounds through my p3at and its reliable. Have owned and shot most of them. The SCCY has one of the best rating out of these guns on your post. There is nothing copyrightable in those designs. I bought a SCCY CPX-2 a few months ago . No issue with it. While larger .380 pistols such as the Walther PPK/S, Walther PK380, Bersa Thunder 380, and Glock 42 dont have this problem, the truly small pocket pistols such as the LCP and TCP most certainly do. They are kind of like the Nancy Pelosis in the outdoor industry. But with 99 votes in, the math is clear: the CPX-2 stinks. So I returned it to them, they replaced several worn parts and returned it. The thing is about Cobras, hi points that people that call them junk have never actually researched the gun. Just a BS review to gain clicks and views. Given all that, wouldnt it be nice to know which pocket guns you can rule out right off the bat? Getting the trigger on the safety notch is something you should never goof around with. 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