When I met my husband, he had a good friend at work, a single girl, who is EXTREMELY flirtatious, and at least a little annoying. I start thinking ok seems a bit late for her to be out drinking with male co-workers but I trust her so she will probably be home soonish. i certainly don't lead them on, or but i may joke around with them - in the same way i would even joke around with a female friend or an unmarried male friend. If she wants to have a bunch of male "friends" she should never have gotten into a relationship or marriage. Maybe he knew you wouldnt like it but needed someone else to speak to if they are as rough as you say. Started Tuesday at 03:06 AM, By Is it fine for my wife to go out drinking with male co-workers for 7 hours. It should've been in her pocket on vibrate, or in her hand. Will this be a Red Flag for her? (If you go all the way back to the era of the Assyrians, Berkowitzs book says, any man who traveled with an unrelated woman had to pay money to her husband and provesometimes by jumping into a swiftly flowing river and survivingthat he had not taken the woman as a sexual partner.) While some adultery laws are still technically on the books, the government is for the most part no longer concerned about what adults do with each other behind closed doors. The minute he started talking to me in a way I knew intuitively and in my gut was inappropriate, I should have stopped talking to him completely. Your affair with a married man will kick off with you realizing that you've fallen in love with a married man. They are pleasant to one another, but they don't make close friends or engage in heavy flirtation with people they work with. She's blonde, beautiful, skinny, and he thinks a lot of her, always going on about how attractive she is and how she deserves a nice bloke. If he has a negative response, call a trusted friend for support. Your husband is being unreasonable. Davidgrx Drinking in someone's home - a woman with several men - husband not present - wife gets pissy when questioned - enough is drunk that the person can't drive and needs to sleep it off. Most people who work contacts in business situations do it in groups, or at work itself. To what kind of husband would that be ok? What are ways a married person might try to wear down the boundaries of someone he or she wanted to have an affair with? 1000Lb Sisters star Amy Slaton has split from her husband, Michael Halterman, it has been claimed. But the others were one-nighters or friends with benefits eager conspirators. It doesn't mean you should divorce, but you should certainly clarify your expectations and where the boundaries are. He's a married man. Need Advice! One woman I spoke to, Susan Flemming, 42, a stay-at-home mother of three . 2)avoid bisexuals. I guess I blame myself for not taking enough responsibility for my behavior by not noticing enough red flags, and that's how I felt with the sexual assault as well. Life is more chaotic. I don't see the problem with friends of the opposite sex when you are in a relationship but this is quite different. I don't believe in the notion of "certain situations make it more likely to happen" as if people have no control over themselves. He is draining the life from your relationship by doing this. Then she countered with "YOU WERE INVITED!!" Sit down and place those boundaries now. You can have pleasant/normal chats with men you work with, but then you don't go to lunch alone with them, nor do you spend time on email/phone really cultivating them as friends. For most people I would say it is fine, but GG you have to be kidding to be even thinking about it. I tried being super honest with her saying "I guess I don't like my wife out drinking with guys I dont know, without me" and asked her how she would feel if I went out getting smashed with two female co-wrkers from work for 7 hours without her. If you have to go meet the friend for dinner, you should bring your significant other along. I figured that as long as he got divorced, it would be okay to consider a relationship with him. reader, dougbcoll+, writes (12 September 2013): A Certainly, the phone in the purse was wrong. When my friend shared this story with me and several others via email, all agreed that there is nothing improper about a married person being home with a Comcast specialist when his/her husband/wife is away. Some people even smile more often when they're in the presence of someone for whom they have developed feelings. Started February 8, By Part of me says "She your wife and should NOT be out drinking with guys, I dont care who the they are or if she trusts them because anything can go down when people are getting smashed drunk. Wow . If peole don't want to cheat they won't cheat even if they are alone with a business colleague. I agree with the poster above who said the signs are usually pretty easy to read and I think your radar is in tune enough not to miss them. Am I being a typical insecure guy on this? Never put the money rumor and the attention together. I think a lot of women worry about being taken advantage of by men - either we've had bad experiences or we've been taught to be self-protective. reader, SeattleWill+, writes (15 October 2019): A Done it dozens of times..I worked in an industry and at a level was male dominated. My oh had a work friend like that, it turns out she was in love with him. No-fault divorce laws were widely adopted in the 1970s, which is also around the time that adultery prosecutions became increasingly unheard of. Chill out, Bill! But she says they have invited me in the past and I have turned them down which is true. If you have intentions of trying to persuade him to leave his wife, then I think you should leave well alone and look for someone who is genuinely single instead. She declined. CAD, I agree with you about having control over one's behavior. Room service and fresh linens and everybody all suited up and shit. (Still, he said, hed be OK with it.) Showed up at their bar at 7. This isnt advice for me..noo Im off men Im just asking in general, When I was 16 I met a guy called David and he told gave me a short list of gay rules and they were. The OP's wife clearly has a distorted view of what a relationship and marriage is. I would not like it either TBH but from an outside point of view I don't think hes doing anything wrong, yes you don't like it but he can choose his own friends, after all he was friends with her before you and they socialised together then. Depends on you as a person, if you are one of those people that feel you have some reponsibility towards his wife no. If it's all so innocent and just as friends then there is no reason for it to be kept secret from his wife is there. Maybe it is just a female perspective. . You should trust your DH etc. None of the above is compatible with a long-lasting, happy, faithful marriage. It was not your fault. "I . Thanks Ren, that was sweet of you to say. You might joke about things related to the office, or talk in groups of other people with them, but you don't spend much one on one time with them. We're all just friends so it's just friends having fun together. The way she speaks to you, the way she acts like you're bothering her by showing concern, the way she acts flippant when you've been calling her and worried like why are you calling etcthat is UTTERLY disrespectful and she sounds like an immature 16 year old who's trying to stick it to her parents by being rebellious. However, Donni mentioned, her 2am is 5pm to most folks. Men have plenty of sperm to spread around, and if he's the type to be unfaithful to his wife (whilst not actually being in love with you), then you can guess that there's a chance he's going to be unfaithful to you too. It can feel like a never-ending cycle of disappointment and rejection, leaving you wondering if you'll ever find a meaningful connection. Think what your boundaries would be if you were married. 5. What sort of overlap in schedules does the OP have with his wife? He's a married man. Finally she calls me back around 9:20 asking me whats up. I also let her know that "I am NOT ok with this at all btw". Are people who engage in affairs similar to sexual predators or are they basically people with poor impulse control? These things all happened with different women, and are just some of the more egregious examples. Am I way off base for getting mad about this? My husband has female friends but they are friends. Is my new friend a flirt or is he interested? Be diligent and thorough. I agree with missali that it sounds as if he likes the attention and it's almost as if he wants you to feel jealous? Photo illustration by Juliana Jimnez. 2. Feeling down or depressed is a common experience for many people at some point in their lives. As social media continues to grow in popularity, more and more people are turning to platforms like TikTok for mental health advice. male reader, So_Very_Confused+, writes (12 September 2013): A I never been out with another people while I was married.If I went some where there was my husband always by the way I am not a drinking woman so I have less experiences about bars and drinking. nah, Some men do go to the club to dance, listen to music. Passive aggressively being angry about it afterwards does nothing but breed confusion. You should always try NOT to get a parent involved in your relationship if you can help it. On the one hand, I'm very street smart and I know how to tell if a married man is hitting on me. Add your answer to this question! If you started off with this attitude then no wonder he hasnt asked you to meet her, why would you introduce your friend to someone who had a negative attitude towards them from the start? Again, while I don't necessarily condone the amount of time (8 hours) she spent drinking with these guys, I don't see that infraction alone as necessitating a divorce, without at least a lot more effort to try to work something out. But even if for some reason I did this, I'd plan to stay out for an hour. However, acting on those urges and desires becomes an issue in a monogamous marriage. She did tell you and invite you. She thinks that she is still single. Answer: I think you'll both be happier if you let her go out with friends within reason, of course. I believe marriages should be respected, treasured and protected. Again her reasoning's are that they are just friends, she wishes I would trust her judgement and that I was being **** making her feel like a terrible wife. What's open at 2AM?.but even if there are places open, nothing good happens at that time anyway. It's not always easy, but if you love each other, you'll figure out what works for you and try to do that. Your baby is going to wake up 2-5 times a night. I Thought I Had A Headache. When I was 16 I met a guy called David and he told gave me a short list of gay rules and they were. A husband that doesn't care. lavenderdove and COtuner, you both bring up good points. 1 2 Go. female . Tinder, the popular dating app, is no longer just for hookups. Many office affairs begin in similar situations. That summer we'd go out every weekend to the local. I would say OK, but I will probably not really be OK with it, said one. Thankfully we sorted it all out. I've been thinking a lot about this thread today. Open yourself up a little, rather than sink into the depth of your private despair. Say what you will, but there's often quite a bit of truth to jokes. 15. If there's one way to get over a bad relationship, it's to go on the rebound. Besides the going out drinking with male coworkers none of her behavior seems like she values or respects you. Even my mother and friends encouraged me to consider a relationship with this man if he got divorced! It wouldn't be acceptable in my marriage. Sureoccasionally. Deep down in your heart, you have this strong gut feeling that this man will come back to you. Not Taking Responsibility. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. Right from the off, I said I was uncomfortable with them spending time together alone for lunches, dinner, drinks etc. Ah, Wednesday. There is a fine line that is socializing and avoidance. Whether its a little crush or somethings else. Then upon your return was gushing about how wonderful/attractive/amazing he was? Looking back on things, I feel my behavior didn't align with my values because I gave into pressure from my mother and friends to give this man a chance. It's a good thing to remember! I'm afraid of being too naive. You have a strong gut feeling that he will come back. OP, it isn't ok. I think aside from any leftover guilt feelings I have about the sexual assault, I also feel I didn't handle the situation well with the married man who wanted an affair with me. I hope I can continue to take responsibility for my own behavior and act appropriately in accordance with my values. Then don't cross them with married people. All contents 2023 The Slate Group LLC. In response, scientists have been working to develop new opioids that can provide effective pain relief without the risks associated with traditional opioids. But I do think that sometimes boundaries get blurry and that's why it's good to notice subtle red flags. I do not care at all. While they may say it's strictly friendship, it usually always ends up in bed at one time or another if they're going out like that without their partner. BUT this is VERY different. ", So she gets off work at 2am (she works late shift). Reactions. He's wearing a ring! You've given him X amount of years of your life and given him two beautiful children. - www.netfly.tv ,. When I ever I work from home, I ping the two of them to see if they want to go to happy hour (and invite my sister and everyone else I know in the neighborhood). Before anybody screams "get real," I'm sure people hook up but I'm just saying not all men are on the prowl, etc. Thats up to the three of you to decide. I wake up at like 5:30 am not feeling well and notice she is not home. Obviously the friend is looking to meet guys and she is using your wife as a wingman. Not calling to leave a message was inconsiderate. Welcome to the Digital Spy forums. Have there been infidelity/trust issues in the past? That said, 7-8 hours does seem like a long time. I had feelings for him, so the fact that he was still with someone and hitting on me made me want to make his life a living hell. Our R M Mavash. For me, it was her attitude that was the reason I automatically thought this relationship has a use by date. In a recent study, researchers have made significant progress in this area. I'll get my nails done, or I'll maybe hit up a hair salon for a mid-week blow-out. For years afterward, I was like, what in the hell was going on then? Before we went back to the office she mentioned we should do dinner next time. courtney_2001 Is that inappropriate or normal? I would ballistic, which wouldn't help.Talk but be very blunt. . If you trust her, I really don't think it's a big deal. A female reader, anonymous, writes (15 September 2013): Actually, the converse is true: it is *usually* OK for a married man to take a female friend out to lunch, whether paying for it or not (hey you invite someone to celebrate their occasion, courtesy says you pay). Her getting angry, apologies, love and back around again? 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